tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post3319798100459161284..comments2024-03-28T09:38:52.661-04:00Comments on thwap's schoolyard: "Don't Tase Me Bro" - Vancouver International Airport Editionthwaphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-91820381210404232782007-11-19T11:28:00.000-05:002007-11-19T11:28:00.000-05:00Thwap,Can't say I disagree on any of your points. ...Thwap,<BR/><BR/>Can't say I disagree on any of your points. If anything, the taser brouhaha has once again made a lot of people take a good hard look at our boys in blue (or black), which I have to say is long overdue.daevhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07491753461413447131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-36618924422276299612007-11-19T10:26:00.000-05:002007-11-19T10:26:00.000-05:00daev,Far too busy these days. So here's my quick ...daev,<BR/><BR/>Far too busy these days. So here's my quick reply:<BR/><BR/>Basically, while I acknowledge that there were police officers in the past who negotiated with people and were able to resolve crises without the need for tasers, I also think that there are such officers now.<BR/><BR/>And just as there are police in the post-9-11, 2001 era who are quick to use force, it's always been the case that some police are thugs.<BR/><BR/>At the end of the day though, I won't discount that this stuff is on the increase, since 9-11, but I'll also add: since Ronald Reagan made cluelessness, violence, and shamelessness such an effective combination for the right-wing, I'm hestitant to point to a "golden-age" in the past when police were more courteous and professional.<BR/><BR/>Aboriginals in Canada and blacks in the USA would probably concur with that, I imagine.thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-77321455191803946392007-11-18T11:51:00.000-05:002007-11-18T11:51:00.000-05:00Daev,Thanks for posting. I'm a wee bit busy, but ...Daev,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for posting. I'm a wee bit busy, but I'll respond later today.<BR/><BR/>Wayne,<BR/><BR/>I'm not interested in anything you have to say from here on.thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-4029937611072206272007-11-18T11:22:00.000-05:002007-11-18T11:22:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03314603669176202647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-53794607915094164222007-11-18T09:13:00.000-05:002007-11-18T09:13:00.000-05:00I tend to agree with you that descriptions of rece...I tend to agree with you that descriptions of recent police violence and thuggery as some sort of new or heightened authoritarian streak masks the fact that the cops have always acted in defense of certain interests with naked aggression and impunity, and lied about it, too. 9/11, the security state, and the "tough on crime" atmosphere massaged by the Harper gov't has perhaps changed the tone, but police, and especially the RCMP, have a long history of brutality and misconduct. <BR/><BR/>I think what has me going is this kind of perfect storm of brutality and inhumanity that's swirling around us, with Dziekanski's death, solid proof that Canada is complicit in the torture of Afghan prisoners, the stance reversal of the Harper government on Canadian death row prisoners abroad, and a general sense of foreboding. We're slipping towards a dangerous place, I can't shake that feeling.<BR/><BR/>Tasers are ugly torture devices in the hands of the cops. In a lot of these cases, the cops shock the victim with 50 000 volts and then bark orders like it's possible for them to hop up and step to. If they don't, the cops shock 'em again. It's sickening.daevhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07491753461413447131noreply@blogger.com