tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post5805264254543038935..comments2024-03-23T20:50:38.503-04:00Comments on thwap's schoolyard: Non-Violencethwaphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-4956115051923617952011-11-23T22:41:40.958-05:002011-11-23T22:41:40.958-05:00:)
There! That's better!:)<br /><br />There! That's better!thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-76653986797466130272011-11-23T22:38:13.536-05:002011-11-23T22:38:13.536-05:00"Blow me".
Yeah. Sorry. Left the mic..."Blow me".<br /><br /><br />Yeah. Sorry. Left the microscope and tweezers at home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-29548791479877681042011-11-23T07:19:42.603-05:002011-11-23T07:19:42.603-05:00Oh yeah, "Blue Oceans." "Blue Ocean...Oh yeah, "Blue Oceans." "Blue Oceans."<br /><br />Practice what you preach concern troll.<br /><br />Liar.thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-9572960437676804972011-11-23T07:18:58.346-05:002011-11-23T07:18:58.346-05:00Blow me.Blow me.thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-61564693525549300702011-11-22T22:38:02.674-05:002011-11-22T22:38:02.674-05:00Fuck you with your labels!!! DO NOT BRING MY KIDS...Fuck you with your labels!!! DO NOT BRING MY KIDS INTO THIS TO SCORE SOME SORT OF CHEAP POINTS OR I PROMISE YOU I WILL FIND YOU AND SERIOUSLY FUCK YOU UP!!! THEY ARE NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-57914487215705595412011-11-22T22:10:43.476-05:002011-11-22T22:10:43.476-05:00What the hell do you even mean you moron?
You lie...What the hell do you even mean you moron?<br /><br />You lie, okay? You're a liar. You type nothing but empty snark on this thread and then you bitch and whine when I call you on it.<br /><br />I assume, from your out-burst, that you think I'm mocking your kids?<br /><br />No, dumb-ass, I'm asking you to take a hard look at your behaviour and ask yourself if you would behave this way in front of your kids.<br /><br />You are a dishonest concern troll, out to score political points, but you pretend as if you're interested in genuine debate and that you're offering constructive criticism.thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-12603484777319519802011-11-22T21:44:24.189-05:002011-11-22T21:44:24.189-05:00I have 4 wonderful kids. Out of respect for them ...I have 4 wonderful kids. Out of respect for them I'm not even going to dignify your last comment with a response.<br /><br />How dare you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-30256104938182757112011-11-22T00:40:29.825-05:002011-11-22T00:40:29.825-05:00Yep. A liar. Do you have kids? Do you teach them t...Yep. A liar. Do you have kids? Do you teach them the utility of lying?<br /><br />Is that how you operate?thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-85798488928164721782011-11-21T22:45:58.608-05:002011-11-21T22:45:58.608-05:00Go easy on yourself...it will be okay.
Calm blue ...Go easy on yourself...it will be okay.<br /><br />Calm blue ocean.....calm blue ocean....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-8799403121041860632011-11-21T21:39:24.593-05:002011-11-21T21:39:24.593-05:00Liar.
Whiner.
Hypocrite.Liar.<br /><br />Whiner.<br /><br />Hypocrite.thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-76604667730934373532011-11-21T19:07:28.658-05:002011-11-21T19:07:28.658-05:00No longer wishing to debate and no longer willing ...No longer wishing to debate and no longer willing to believe a person can change their mind, you decide instead to simply shut down debate. Just like the Tories you so endlessly deride.<br /><br />Hey, dumbass....the Tories want the page in the play book back!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-47819898894243544902011-11-21T16:41:29.046-05:002011-11-21T16:41:29.046-05:00Well, now you're just lying.
I think if a san...Well, now you're just lying.<br /><br />I think if a sane person read the record of our online interaction they would see that you're the lying, self-pitying, hypocritical fraud.<br /><br />Towards the very end there, you were saying things that I'd consider interacting with, but by that time you'd worn out your welcome with your mindlessness and your hypocrisy.<br /><br />Bye.thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-27898904022031976232011-11-20T23:18:39.727-05:002011-11-20T23:18:39.727-05:00I see you have nothing to add but further insults....I see you have nothing to add but further insults. Please, insult me all you want. I really couldn't care less. Don't accuse me of intolerance when you pull the exact same thing. Please. Dumb ass chump?......are you still in grade school? Please find yourself a thesaurus. Your repeated use of the same tiresome verbiage is growing weary. I'm not sure why you assume that I demand an manifesto and will then accuse them of imposing it on me? Seriously, where do get this from? You presume to know a lot about me yet your outright ignorance just makes me laugh. It's quite pathetic. I'm sorry that my political beliefs can't be neatly packaged in to "left", "right" or centrist". Sorry if that confuses you. You'll just have to deal with it. <br /><br />At least I can formulate a plan. It's not that difficult. It's what I asked for all along. And you even admit you agree with some of it. That's how politlcal discourse is carried out and how workable solutions are found. You just throw mindless invective. Seriously, is that all you have? Grow up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-87336619855840512242011-11-20T21:31:19.296-05:002011-11-20T21:31:19.296-05:00What facade of lefty tolerance? I don't preten...What facade of lefty tolerance? I don't pretend to be tolerant, so that's a non-starter.<br /><br />Here's the thing WWU: This blog entry is about non-violence, okay? It's about the possibility that the moral victories of non-violence aren't going to be worth a helluva lot if the state's violence crushes the movement.<br /><br />Okay? <br /><br />That's what it's about. It's a very specific topic.<br /><br />And you're not even talking about that.<br /><br />And you appear to have put a lot of effort into typing your last screed, but your contribution to ANY sort of discussion in this comments section has been less than useless.<br /><br />Here and at Montreal Simon's, you've really done nothing but call the Occupiers a bunch of idiots and demanded from them a manifesto, which you could then accuse them of attempting to impose it upon you.<br /><br />Now you've gone and written a lengthy list of things you do and things you believe in and etc., and etc., and some of it has merit and some of it I disagree with. And if you'd started out typing that way, maybe I'd be less abrasive. But for my money, you seemed like some dumb-ass chump, sniping at the sidelines, pretending that you'd have an open mind, but you're really just the typical right-wing deluded chump.<br /><br />FWIW: You're not very original with your insults.thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-33111803460408662342011-11-20T19:24:36.140-05:002011-11-20T19:24:36.140-05:00And again, the leftie facade of "tolerance fo...And again, the leftie facade of "tolerance for all" fades when confronted with a view point with which they disagree. Perhaps you should seek out some therapy for your anger issues. <br /><br />Anyway, since you seem incapable of answering my question, perhaps I can do it for you. <br /><br />The Occupy Movement must come up with a clear plan, a blue print if you will, of how it intends to achieve its goals. Simply camping out on public and private property isn't going to cut it in the longs run. It's getting colder obviously and it runs the risk of alienating those fellow 99%ers it claims to represent.<br /><br />The Group Democracy Watch has some interesting ideas on how to improve both corporate and banking responsibility. Further more, I think it is imperative that Canadians support whichever party they feel is best able to push for these. It is important for people to be politically active. Voter apathy just doesn't cut it anymore obviously. <br /><br />Refuse to do business with corporations you feel are not good "community citizens" For example, I refuse to buy Coke because I know it sponsors certain rodeo events where animal rights are very far down their concern list. I also advice my fiancee not to buy products from L'Oreal cosmetics. They were infamous for their use of Jewish slave labour during WWII. (BMV would be another one.) I realize that it can be difficult to be aware of everything these corporations do and what they sponsor as the list can be quite exhaustive. Some sort of centralized website would work wonders. I know I'd be a frequent visitor to it. On the topic of social media, I think it is an amazing tool and we are just scratching the surface with it.<br /><br />I think time and energy has been squandered on the issue of these camps and that more effective forms of protest are needed. I also think people need to hold government accountable for some of its reckless spending. The gun control registry and talk of universal subsidized daycare, the CBC and bloated unions need to be done away with. The insane amount of our tax payers money wasted on this could be much better spent on housing and education. (I can personally vouch for the state of housing in some of our remote communities. It is definitely 3rd world and no government of any political stripe can sugar coat or spin that). Finally, we need to end this notion on the part of some people that they can just get a cushy government job and go "cradle to grave". It is vastly unfair that the everyday working person should have to subsidize some lazy bureaucrat. <br /><br />I'm sure I could go on much longer but I don't want to write a tome here. Anyhow, call it a vision or some semblance of a plan but this is more than what I've seen put out by many of these so-called activists who thus far seem more concerned with all manner of useless side issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-45310086738740495902011-11-20T16:57:39.808-05:002011-11-20T16:57:39.808-05:00WWU,
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that you'r...WWU,<br /><br />I'm sorry.<br /><br />I'm sorry that you're so fucking stupid that you're completely blind to your own incoherence. I see that your hypocrisy is unintended and that you can't even see it when I describe it for you step-by-step.<br /><br />Yours is a tragic case indeed.<br /><br />I don't even know where you get the idea that I'm a concern troll. I don't even know if you know what it is you're trying to say.<br /><br />"Can we stick to the issues" you ask, when you've been tossing out incoherent one-liners about lefty failure!<br /><br />As I said, tragic.thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-12791643412382589032011-11-20T16:04:42.613-05:002011-11-20T16:04:42.613-05:00Concern troll. Yeah. Talk about the pot calling ...Concern troll. Yeah. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Geez, it's easy to get you guys riled up. I'm only trying to understand what the Occupy group's plan is for change. Can you articulate one or is it just easier to drone on and on about me because you don't have one? Can we stick to the issues please rather than all this needless side tracking? In the end bashing and insulting me doesn't really accomplish anything. Don't fucking insult me simply because you don't agree with my point of view. YOU FUCKING MORON!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-11237838972276401932011-11-19T20:59:15.343-05:002011-11-19T20:59:15.343-05:00WWU,
You don't have a clue do you?
What are ...WWU,<br /><br />You don't have a clue do you?<br /><br />What are you trying to understand?<br /><br />Let's review your contribution on this little post here. And we'll only mention the total hypocrisy you displayed at Montreal Simon's, whining about ad hominem attacks on you while calling the Occupiers idiotic clowns.<br /><br />I type something about how knee-jerk condemnations of violence are silly and you mention Gandhi.<br /><br />I tell you that I've heard of Gandhi but remind you that non-violent protest has been useless in stopping the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, global warming and the greed-fest of the Vancouver Olympics.<br /><br />You make a snide remark about lefty failure.<br /><br />I remind you that the invasions and occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan have been disasters. That global warming will bring about a nightmare for the whole human race. That mainstream status-quo policies are failures.<br /><br />You blurt out "especially lefty failure" and I still don't know why.<br /><br />Then you ask the Occupy Movement to produce a grand plan. You promise to keep an open mind.<br /><br />I say that you're incoherent. That I doubt your promise and that I don't respect your opinions.<br /><br />You whine some more about insults and then it's the tired crapola about how the left isn't tolerant.<br /><br />You haven't given me any reason to be tolerant of you. You're a concern troll, just like fern hill said.thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-2343180190921359902011-11-19T17:56:40.704-05:002011-11-19T17:56:40.704-05:00Again, thanks for the insult. I am only trying to...Again, thanks for the insult. I am only trying to understand here. Yeesh. I guess the open-mindedness and civility the Left professes evaporates when faced with a point of view with which they disagree. I am part of the 99% but you most certainly do not speak for me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-67192138301410960432011-11-19T12:46:55.680-05:002011-11-19T12:46:55.680-05:00What do you mean by "especially lefty failure...What do you mean by "especially lefty failure"?<br /><br />Why did you even write that? What are you talking about?<br /><br />You can't just keep babbling shit and expecting a reasoned reply.<br /><br />At this point I don't really care about your promise to keep an open mind. First because you'll probably break your promise (in the same way you ask for civility while calling people you disagree with idiotic clowns who are totally full of crap), and secondly because I'm not sure that the products of your mind (open or not) would be worthwhile.thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-80553303662346303682011-11-19T12:32:07.677-05:002011-11-19T12:32:07.677-05:00Especially lefty failure.
Anyhow, what is the ...Especially lefty failure. <br /><br />Anyhow, what is the protesters grand plan anyway? Put together something coherent if you want people to support it. I promise to keep an open mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-25244711669144072272011-11-18T20:56:58.919-05:002011-11-18T20:56:58.919-05:00WWU,
Is that supposed to be clever?
Because the ...WWU,<br /><br />Is that supposed to be clever?<br /><br />Because the invasion of Iraq turned out to be a disaster for the USA (not as much as it was for the Iraqis) and the same thing goes for Afghanistan.<br /><br />And Vietnam was a disaster. And so is global warming.<br /><br />So what's actually going on is that there's a lot of tragic failure, stemming from mainstream policies that non-violent lefty protesters have been impotent to stop.<br /><br />But you cheer on the failure nonetheless.thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-73612044235254943032011-11-18T18:59:45.643-05:002011-11-18T18:59:45.643-05:00Wow, that is a lot of failure there on the Lefties...Wow, that is a lot of failure there on the Lefties part. Thank you for reminding me why I don't support them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-44848022118728203772011-11-18T14:50:47.268-05:002011-11-18T14:50:47.268-05:00Yes, I've heard of Gandhi.
Could you now show...Yes, I've heard of Gandhi.<br /><br />Could you now show how peaceful protest ended the Vietnam War? Or prevented the invasion of Iraq? Or got the troops home from Afghanistan? Or stopped the Tar-Sands? Or blocked the greed orgy at the Vancouver Olympics?<br /><br />Did you read my post?thwaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15399550285738440669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2022452485619502579.post-47938825642360823942011-11-18T12:51:37.477-05:002011-11-18T12:51:37.477-05:00Non-violence has worked in the past? Haven't ...Non-violence has worked in the past? Haven't young people heard of Gandhi these days?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com