OMIGOD!! The politics of hate! Don't be a hater! You're blinded by your hate. Hate is a crude, dangerous emotion.
Anyway, ... I do hate the Liberal Party. And I need to write a post for today, and my deep hatred for the Liberal Party is always coming to the forefront when I'm trying to think of what to type.
I hate them because they obfuscate Canadians' political choices. In the first half of the 20th century, Liberals were better able to articulate their awareness of the changing needs of Canadian society as it transformed from rural-agricultural to urban-industrial. (That having been said, it was the Conservative Party that did most to create this urban-industrial society, and that at both levels of government created many noteworthy institutions such as Workers' Compensation, Ontario-Hydro, and others.)
But as the more forward thinking of the two main parties, the Liberals were better placed to learn the lessons of the Great Depression than the Conservatives, and were therefore more able to recognize the worth of the Cooperative Commonwealth Federation's ideas, ... and, yes, ... steal many of them.
And you could get a lot done for the average Canadian by being a Liberal, voting Liberal, or working for the Liberals up until the 1970s when the economy was expanding and laisse-faire was greatly discredited. But they were always, first and foremost, a liberal-capitalist party, and when the chips came down in the late-1970s, this capitalist element made itself apparent.
But to this day, the Liberals continue to trade-off this illusion that they're the party of the welfare state. Chretien's claim that "Liberal times are good times," (as he said after his 1993 victory) was meant to harken back to the days of the Liberals in the 1970s, after two terms of the Mulroney Progressive Conservatives. But what did Chretien do? Together with Paul Martin, they dismantled federal housing, slashed financial assistance to the provinces for healthcare and education, signed NAFTA, destroyed Haitian democracy, took us into Afghanistan, and gave tax-cut after tax-cut, mainly to corporations and the wealthy, in order to whittle-away at the surpluses (always hidden until the last minute) in order to bring government's contribution to the economy down to 1950s levels.
That's why the NDP will spend at least as much time attacking the Liberals. Because while the Conservatives are now comprised of the most nauseating stew of blatant corporate con-men and thieves, and a hard-core base of fundamentalist whack-jobs and closet-cases, the Liberals don't present much different so far as ordinary Canadians' standards of living go. And it's the Canadians tempted to vote Liberal out of a lingering delusion that the Liberal Party will genuinely help them, who are the people who might vote NDP were their eyes truly open to the way things work in Canada and the world. The Conservative voting base isn't going to be persuaded to vote NDP as a result of being convinced by stinging critiques of the Harper government on the part of Jack Layton. (For the most part, they'll hear the critique and come up with a lame-ass response that will be incomprehensible to ordinary, sane people.)
The Liberal Party should die. It should get out of the way. There's a battle to be fought, and one-side is slavering with bloodlust (the Conservative Party of Canada/SDA crowd) and the other is being duped and deluded by these corporate Quislings standing between the bloodthirsty and the virtuous.
[I'm sure everyone will like my Manichean depiction of the situation!! :) ]
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Whooee! I pretty much agree about the capitulating and useless Grits. Also, about the nature of teh Con's. However, I don't think the constant slamming of the LPC by NDP supporters will win over very many Grit supporters. The tactic of insulting and deriding the Liberals at every opportunity, is not likely to win support and more likely to make Liberals voters dig in their heels. Or, move to a more conciliatory alternative (you know who I mean.)
I think my premise is backed up by the polls. Soft Liberals support is bleeding but it is definitely not bleeding to the NDP. The NDP has done all in its power to alienate and antagonize Liberals. NDP bloggers are at the very forefront of the assault on Liberals. You've acknowledged as much in this post.
Winning elections is all about attracting voters to your side. Honey works better for attraction purposes than vinegar. Vitriolic acid attracts even less than vinegar.
JB
The conservatives started this problem.
This was sent to the Premier of Ontario Dalton McGuinty, the Minister of Community and Social Services Madeleine Meilleur, Hamilton Mayor Fred Eisenberger and Hamilton city councilor Bernie Morelli, via e-mail on Feb 24 08.
My question to you and to myself is how do they get away with the callous and unjust manner that workers approach their clients with, at Ontario Works, ODSP and even the Social Benefits Tribunal?
The answer is very simple. BECAUSE THEY CAN
For the record I would like to state, I have seen many improvements to the SBT since a change of it’s Chair and I expect to see many more. I can’t say the same for Ontario Works and ODSP.
The research shows when clients have contact with workers the response is not always the same. You could ask three different workers the same question and receive three different answers.
If the worker doesn't especially like you, they will simply ignore you. This means things like no return phone calls, ignoring verbal requests for benefits, requesting more than usual documents be brought in to prove eligibility and so on.
If the worker really doesn't like you, they will often do everything in their power to harass, intimidate and frustrate you into giving up and going away. This means things like ignoring written requests for benefits, telling you that the benefit doesn’t exist, denying benefits when you are entitled and no decision letters and so on.
If the worker does like you, they will give you any of the benefits that you ask for if you entitled. This is only if the worker is aware of the benefits requested. Here is an interesting problem. The vast majority of the workers are not aware of benefits that are available. This even includes some of the excellent workers. Another problem is that the fast majority of clients don’t even know what the benefits are.
********All clients must document, tape record and video record everything, every time when dealing with any OW or ODSP staff. ********
The governments must, as a gesture of good will, give all Ontario Works and ODSP clients a written copy of the benefits that they say clients are entitled.
This would be a first concrete step taken to start the process in eliminating poverty.
Ontario Works Directive # 31.0 found at http://www.mcss.gov.on.ca/mcss/english/pillars/social/ow-directives/ow_policy_directives.htm or the:
Ontario Disability Support Program Directives #s 9.1 to 9.19 Found at http://www.mcss.gov.on.ca/mcss/english/pillars/social/odsp-is-directives/ODSP_incomesupport.htm
The only real remedy to this problem is for clients to sue their respective governments. For Ontario Works it would be their local municipal government and the Province of Ontario and for ODSP it would be the Province of Ontario.
In the Ontario Works Act it states No personal liability
77.(1)No action or other proceeding in damages shall be instituted against the Ministry, the Director, a delivery agent, an officer or employee of any of them or anyone acting under their authority for any act done in good faith in the execution or intended execution of a duty or authority under this Act or for any alleged neglect or default in the execution in good faith of any duty or authority under this Act.
In the Ontario Disability Support Program it states No personal liability
58. (1) No action or other proceeding in damages shall be instituted against the Ministry, the Director or a delivery agent, an officer, employee of any of them or anyone acting under their authority for any act done in good faith in the execution or intended execution of a duty or authority under this Act or for any alleged neglect or default in the execution in good faith of any duty or authority under this Act. 1997, c. 25, Sched. B, s. 58 (1).
This means that a client could sue for damages if bad faith could be proven.
It is called bad faith; a person who intentionally tries to deceive or mislead another in order to gain some advantage.
It is called willful blindness or willful deceit.
The government must get rid of the discretionary powers it allows workers in the OW and OSSP, Act, Regulations and Directives.
You’re either entitled to benefits or your not. It is extremely simple but the government will not do it until it gets sued for Bad Faith.
It’s so simple; all the government has to do is to look at how the federal government implements its Employment Insurance application process, and they are saving millions.
To receive benefits you must go online to apply, with exceptions for some disabled clients. You fill out a simple template and the next thing you experience is a cheque in the mail. If the federal government trusts us why can’t you?
Ron Payne
Welfare Legal
Hamilton, Ontario.
E-mail welfarelegal2004@hotmail.com
Then the Liberals gave us this problem.
WHO IS REALLY COMMITTING THE FRAUD AROUND HERE
The general public has no idea what the system is really like. They think fraud is ramped in Ontario Works and ODSP. Here is something to think about and it is just the tip of the iceberg according to our research.
The provincial government says welfare fraud is around 2%.
Who is really committing the fraud around here?
The federal government says income tax fraud is 13%
Ontario Works staff charged in $1.3million Fraud
By Sarah Elizabeth Brown Tuesday March 4,2008
Chronicle Journal http://tbay.ok.bc.ca/stories.php?id=95704
Government ODSP worker charged in $585,000 fraud case.
By SooToday.com Staff Wednesday, November 14, 2007
SooToday
http://www.sootoday.com/content/news/full_story.asp?StoryNumber=28485
http://odsp.blogspot.com/2007/11/former-government-worker-charged-in.html
93.7 million dollars in corporate welfare
Linda Leatherdale March 7,2008
http://money.canoe.ca/Columnists/Leatherdale/2008/03/07/4938021-sun.html
http://theoldcraftsman.com/blog/?p=387#comment-174
Premier Dalton McGuity is handing over a 9.7 million dollar corporate welfare cheque to Kellogg. Kellogg’s profit was $1 billion. Also Ford got a $55 million cheque and is now cutting shifts, while GM got $29million and is also cutting shifts.
$150 million called corporate welfare for a profitable industry.
Rob Ferguson January 10, 2008
Queens Park Bureau http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/292631
The Ontario Government has earmarked $150 million to encourage pharmaceutical companies to do more drug research and manufacturing in the province.
Ron Payne
Welfare Legal
Hamilton, Ontario
E-mail welfarelegal2004@hotmail.com
jimbobby,
I can't say that I agree. Maybe the polls back you up, but I'm not interested in the results of conventional wisdom right now. I'd like for conventional wisdom to change.
Regarding NDP criticism of the Liberals, I think the NDP differentiates between Liberal voters and the Liberal Party itself. As I said, the bulk of Liberal voters believe in decent things, and imagine that their votes call for these decent things, but they don't do any follow up, or make enough connections as of late, when the Liberals stay true to their corporate roots.
As far as the Green Party is concerned, even if I didn't think that their habit of getting the discredited Fraser Institute to stamp a seal of approval on their platform was bad, I'd be opposed to them at the present time.
Until we get proportional representation in this country, t'would be a waste of time to vote for even an excellent fourth party. Because those votes simply get diluted to nothing spread around too many parties.
Media Release
The Evidence Is In
Poverty’s Smoke and Mirrors, Part 2
To see part 1 http://www.special-need-child-canada.com/povertys-smoke-and-mirrors.html
The article above went out to the main media and approximately 65 other print news media starting September 21 2008. It was also put on the World Wide Web.
To my knowledge it was only printed in 3 Ontario news papers in the Letters to the Editor section.
1) Hamilton’s, Mountain News
2) Hamilton’s, Stoney Creek News
3) London’s, The London Free Press
Thank you to these three papers for caring enough about people that live in poverty to print this article.
As of today November 06 2008 the Ontario government has only posted old outdated directives dated Sept 2001.
http://www.mcss.gov.on.ca/mcss/english/pillars/social/directives/ow_policy_directives.html
Obviously these directives are of no use to anyone simply because of the fact they are outdated and the ministry is now using the July 2008 up to date directives but has not shared them with the public.
You may remember Welfare Legal was so offended by this abuse we offered $100.00 to anyone that could produce a copy of the latest Ontario Works directive 7.4.
As of this date no one has collected the $100.00. Welfare Legal now has a copy of the new directives that the government has not shared.
We take the position that this is the most serious kind of abuse by our government to implement new policies but not allow those most in need to have access to them. The only reason the government has given for this abuse is that the Ontario Government has not prepared a French version of these directives.
This is a Human Rights violation, among others, to implement a secrete version of the directives and not share them with the public and not to have a French version available.
As we have stated before the Ontario government has in fact been cutting the benefits of Ontario Works, (OW) and the Ontario Disability Support Program, (ODSP) recipients without letting the general public aware of these cuts.
The latest cuts that have become public are the cuts to benefits to grandparents that are caring for their own grandchildren, who many had, have been apprehended by the Children’s Aid Society (CAS). The grand parent’s complaints were heard loud and clear the government seems to have withdrawn these policy changes.
The new directive 7.4 and others shows more cuts that the public is not aware of yet.
One of these cuts shows that the Ontario government no longer supports volunteering here in Ontario. In the old outdated directives dated September 2001, the government used to give a small benefit to those recipients that had to do volunteer work as a condition of eligibility for OW. These cuts also affect those who wish to do volunteer work and are disabled on ODSP as well.
Are volunteers no longer needed here in Ontario?
These cuts which are ongoing, have been made to help pay for the meager increases to OW and ODSP of 2%. They are also part of the government’s bigger plan, to upload the cost of OW and ODSP from the municipality to the province and to pay for its poverty reduction strategy.
At the end of the day the government will save millions of dollars in benefits that the former Mike Harris Tories said people on OW and ODSP were entitled to. Does this make sense to anyone?
This story gets much, much worse. It turns out that the aboriginal community in Ontario had the foresight not to allow its members to be subjected to the policies and procedures put in place by the Mike Harris government, when they bought the draconian computer program from Anderson Consulting now Accenture. The cost of that program was $400 million and rising. This program was designed to cut people off of benefits automatically, with no human contact. There seems to be 2 classes of people being governed differently here, and what are the costs?
It would seem they were allowed to have their own computer program made up by a private company called AD Morrison.
http://www.admorrison.com/
A private professional researcher contacted Welfare Legal in an attempt to collect the $100.00 offered for the latest Ontario Works directive 7.4 and alerted us to a Pandora’s Box. You will see on the home page of AD Morrison’s site there is a link to “Latest Directives”. This link contained a third set of OW directives that was not available to the general public.
After Welfare Legal contacted the ministry to see if this in fact was the latest and new directive 7.4, the ministry contacted us with a reply that had nothing to do with our request. Then out of the blue this link was taken of the site.
After gathering all the evidence we soon learned that the Ontario government had not been keeping these new directive from the public since July 2008, they had in fact been hiding them starting in December 2005 and no one new about it. At least no one that has come forward so far.
There has been no response from any legal clinic or private paralegal in Ontario showing that they new about this breach of the Human Rights Code by our provincial government. If anyone was aware of this why didn’t they take it to the media? Does nobody care about this abuse? Does nobody care about eliminating poverty?
It is interesting to note that the government has even changed the directive numbers to confuse us even more once we were allowed to become aware of them.
September 2001 shows directive 31.0, the out dated benefits that we all are aware of.
December 2005 shows
7.3 is EMPLOYMENT AND PARTICIPATION BENEFITS
7.4 is COMMUNITY START UP AND MAINTENANCE BENEFIT
July 2008 shows
7.4 is EMPLOYMENT AND PARTICIPATION BENEFITS
7.5 is COMMUNITY START UP AND MAINTENANCE BENEFIT
For a copy of these directives
http://owcorruption.blogspot.com/
How can the Ontario government say it is attempting to alleviate poverty when it is secretly cutting the benefits of those most in need? (Reverse Robin Hood)
Ron Payne
Welfare Legal
Hamilton, Ontario
Phone 905-253-0205
E-mail welfarelegal2004@hotmail.com
Blog http://welfarelegal.blogspot.com/
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