Reply to LALI

At first I thought that I'd ignore it. (Which seemed to be LALI's request anyway.) I thought I'd write about something else. But it all seemed so pointless to have a blog with a comments section and to not .... oh well.

In the comments section of the last post there's some back and forth between me and the commentator I call "LALI." You can read the rest if you want, but suffice to say that after a detailed comment from LALI I wrote:

There's too much for me to go at in that comment. I'll limit myself to two points:

1. Yes, Afghanistan is over for us. But for the ELEVEN YEARS we were involved, the goddamned left had zero impact for all of our "rallying" and "actions."

2. harper might be through, but it will be because of widespread disillusionment with his own corruption, incompetence and the unpopularity of his policies.

Which means, we were pretty much useless in bringing about his expected political demise.

Which has been my point this whole time


 LALI replied with the following:

Don't think you have to "go at" my opinion or anything else, how is that helpful? To you, me, or the others here?

1) So?

2) Correct.

In conclusion;

I always knew they'd be 'given enough rope' someday.

Believe it or not thwap-
there are more powerful forces
in this universe than you.

Or me.

So as Dana says so well- enjoy friends, family, work, whatever- and most importantly, to this Liberal- have FUN!! Or change your
own life 'til ya do. That much power, we do have. And that's why people become frustrated with you-
you seem to have stopped looking for change, growth and fun which is in our power. Don't do that,
anyone. Never stop looking.

And how does encouraging others matter?
WTF thwap, you're not seriously asking that question, right??

So, here goes ....

Don't think you have to "go at" my opinion or anything else, how is that helpful? To you, me, or the others here?

I don't know. I thought it was called "having a conversation." I thought that was the point of people with opposing viewpoints speaking to each other. So I guess the "help" part would have been to try to clarify positions, establish bases of disagreements, attempt to correct errors, strengthen analysis. But if speaking at people and past them is what works best, who am I to disagree?

1) So?

SO???? Eleven years of failure; eleven years of zero impact, on one of the most important issues of the past decade, and all you can think to say is "So?" Our government violated international human rights law, was guilty of torture, abused our parliamentary system to successfully cover it up, wasted billions and billions of our dollars, killed, maimed and wounded thousands of Canadian soldiers, killed and traumatized untold thousands of Afghans, all to prop-up a corrupt, unelected, narco-terrorist government of thieves and pedophiles and you say "So?"??????

2) Correct.

In conclusion;

I always knew they'd be 'given enough rope' someday.

I don't know how to make it any clearer: If we TRY to get rid of someone (especially a menace like stephen harper) and we're unable to do it when given 8 years to do so, and WORSE we allow ourselves to be abused by him and our country's democratic culture to visibly deteriorate, that means we've failed. Failed utterly. Failed completely.











When the Soviet Union imploded, it didn't vindicate the USA's economic model. harper's implosion won't vindicate our tactics and our methods. As I said, I can't state this any more clearer than that.

Believe it or not thwap-
there are more powerful forces
in this universe than you.

I see. But where in the fucking name of christ did I ever say that I was the most powerful force in this universe? What was the point of that shit?

Or me.

Again, I have no idea what you're fucking talking about.

So as Dana says so well- enjoy friends, family, work, whatever- and most importantly, to this Liberal- have FUN!! 

You left out the part about how Dana says we're all doomed because we're all too stupid and/or incapable to react to our self-inflicted crises properly. And, I don't think he said to have fun anyway, but to try to enjoy our loved ones' company before the deluge.

Or change your
own life 'til ya do. 

If only I knew that I've been living my life wrong and that changing it so that I can have fun, fun, fun, was the way to go!

That much power, we do have. 

Sure. My current employment situation is entirely my problem, my fault, and totally within my power to change.(BTW: I realize that having a negative attitude will likely produce less in the way of positive results than a positive attitude. That's what we all call a "no-brainer." But to say that we have within ourselves the power to make our lives better is a lie. If circumstances cause you to suffer some crippling loss or tragedy, it will have nothing to do with the power of positive thinking. Bad shit doesn't go away just because you don't want to think about it.)

And that's why people become frustrated with you-
you seem to have stopped looking for change, growth and fun which is in our power. Don't do that,
anyone. Never stop looking.

No. People are frustrated with me because I attack their breezy, empty-headed delusions about how it's all going to be okay and that we've just gotta keep doing what we've always been doing, because that's the way to victory. The facts that I bring showing how things have gotten worse, our rights are crumbling, inequality is increasing, democracy is dying, wars are raging, the environment is being ravaged, ... and that our blogging, our petitioning, our rallies, our voting, have all failed to halt this process and will continue to fail to halt this process, ... well, they can all be disregarded.


That's it. Disregarded.

They can't, apparently, be successfully argued against, because if that were the case I'd have heard something coherent by now. The same way that the right-wing trolls never managed to humiliate me by showing me what a colossal idiot I am; they would have loved to do that but they couldn't so instead they resorted to puerile insults and death threats. Obviously, progressives aren't sending me death threats. They're just accusing me of shitting all over people I disagree with (which I supposedly do simply for the sake of it), of being negative for no reason (as opposed to all the facts and analysis that accompanies my negativity), of frightening people about ecological catastrophe and forgetting about intrinsic values (because that essay was sort of about negativity).

And how does encouraging others matter?
WTF thwap, you're not seriously asking that question, right??

No. I wasn't seriously asking that question. I never asked that question at all. You're thinking about what maybe somebody else said, somewhere else, about something else.