Wednesday, July 18, 2012

More About Canada in Afghanistan

Yesterday's post really didn't capture my disgust with the loons who got Canada into that mess and the ignoramuses who commented on those stories in the Toronto Star. So, here we go again.

If you're going to put the Canadian military into a military mission, you have to do it with your eyes open and only after a thorough investigation into the facts. And one fact of the matter is that while sucking-up to the USA is pretty much an integral part of the job of a Canadian prime minister, the degree to which we suck up to them is negotiable.

The USA is not going to cut-off trading relations with Canada because we don't join them on some mad fool adventure somewhere. The price of US-American displeasure needs to be compared to the price of dragging Canada into an evil (despite what sputtering gas-bags like Terry Glavin have to say about it) clusterfuck. Personally, I don't think one Canadian life is worth whatever temporary bitching and moaning we would have had to endure from the bush II regime, let alone the 158 lives that were lost and the hundreds more that were harmed either through injuries or mental anguish.

Building upon that, ... just what were the practical ramifications of Chretien's refusal to join the invasion of Iraq? I would submit that they were incredibly minor. And, what were the benefits for Canada of having gone in with them to Afghanistan? What recognition (besides having the CF mocked on late-night FOX News "comedy" shows) has Canada received for its sacrifices? Were the benefits for Canada from US goodwill equal to the (modest estimate) of $10-15 billion that we spent over there?

Because a good hard look at the subject should have set off the Liberals' alarm-bells when they waded into this quagmire. "Hmmm. So you're over-ruling the decision of the Afghan Loya Jirga and imposing your own man upon them?" "Hmmm. So you're going to make the Northern Aliance warlords, who tore the country to shreds before the Taliban defeated them, the backbone of your hand-picked puppet's government are you?" "Hmmm. So you're going to make these warlords the governors of Pashtun areas and let them rule them as feudal fiefdoms are you?" As the Mound of Sound said in yesterday's comments, picking Karzai and the warlords and giving them free reign was the start and it was the beginning of the end.

It was obviously a disaster in the making. But the brain-dead, deluded worldview of your average liberal can't see that. We were going to take prisoners and hand them over to the US-Americans. Because, obviously, the loony-left hasn't based their analysis of US-American war crimes on knowledge about the decades of torture and violence in Vietnam or Latin America, but on a visceral "anti-Americanism" that defies reason and logic. Oh, and then prisoners were tortured to death at Bagram and Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, .... OOOOPS! Better find someone else to take our prisoners I guess. Let's get the corrupt, warlord government's NDS to do it! Yeah! There's an idea!  (We'll turn down the offer from the British and the Dutch to build our own safe, non-torturing facility, thank you very much.

So, it was the stupid Liberals who got Canada into the mess. Then, in 2006, the vile and stupid harpercons took over. And, no, we can't blame the harpercons for the mistakes of the Liberals. And that includes the asinine decision of the meat-head idiot loser General Hillier who negotiated the shitty arrangement with the Afghan government to hand over to them our prisoners. But, again, as "Canada's New Government" harper had a right and a duty to reinvestigate the commitments of the Liberals and see whether what we were doing in Canada was in Canada's best interests. But what did he do instead? he embraced "the Mission" with even more insane fervour than Chretien and Martin did. He was more gung-ho about the CF killing rag-heads and even more indifferent to the possibility of war-crimes being committed.

And then, while our overstretched military is fighting, killing and dying for a flawed cause, and Canada's reputation (however stretched) or a law-abiding, human rights respecting nation takes one body blow after another, ... these stupid fucks in the government can't even ensure proper oversight of our aid effort there?? (And, as Beijing York said in yesterday's comments, much of this was supposed to have been the responsibility of Bev Oda and her $16 orange juice.)

And then, some other stupid fucks, instead of being outraged about how our governments have wasted our blood and wasted our treasure and betrayed the people of Afghanistan, there's insulting condemnations of the people of that country and ruminations about our misplaced generosity!

No wonder this country is so fucked.

5 comments:

Beijing York said...

Remember that sham Blue Ribbon Panel with Manley and not-yet-a-senator Pamela Wallin? All it was was political theatre in aid of softening Harper's image back then.

Rest assured that if the US proceeds with wars on Syria and Iran, Canada will be first in the queue to promise heavy lifting duties.

thwap said...

Owen,

Too true. And let's not forget their penny-pinching when it comes to looking after wounded veterans.

Beijing York,

About future "heavy lifting," ... the imbecile harper believes the USA can afford a lot more of that and so he wants to build CANADIAN military bases around the world.

Except for the fact that the stupid fuck can't even organize the purchase of a new fleet of trucks in six years!

I tried not to think too much about the Manley Report. That BCNI/CCCE hack is a real piece of work.

Mogs said...

1 2 3 what are we fighting 4...

Don't ask me I don't give a damn...

Next stop is Afghanistan...

Now let's bring on the body bags...

Collateral damage who gives a shit...

Cause we are all Harperites...

Lets wipe out the f..........

thwap said...

What happened? Did someone get blown up?

Anyway, next stop is Syria, ... then Iran.

Mogs said...

No shit Thwap...