Sunday, November 25, 2007

Great Kids and Stupid, Ignorant, Brutish Kids

Here's a heartening/disheartening story from http://www.commondreams.org/:

"Students Wear Confederate Flag Shirts To Oppose Peace-Shirt Group"

It seems that some nice kids at a Florida highschool have decided to start a peace club. This involved their wearing shirts with homemade peace symbols on them every Thursday, and, later, putting up peace posters on each others' lockers. It was intended to be a fun, non-partisan way for these kids to express how much they liked the state wherein resources aren't wasted on guns provided by profiteer scum, children's lives aren't destroyed by these weapons which maim and kill them and their loved ones, and so-on and such-forth.

Sadly, things haven't been going so well for the peace club in the Florida highschool:

The heckling began early in the school year, according to group members. They said they were putting small posters promoting peace on friends’ lockers with their permission.

They thought it was OK, because the cheerleaders and football players had signs on theirs. Eventually, though, group members said they were told by the school’s administration they could no longer hang up the posters.

“People tore them down and drew swastikas and ‘white power’ stuff on them,” Lauren said. Skylar had similar things written on her posters.

“Someone taped an ‘I Love Bush’ sign over my ‘Wage Peace’ sign,” she said. “So I tore it down, threw it away, and the whole commons starting booing. I walk by later and find that someone has completely tore my sign down and placed an ‘I Love America, Because America Loves War’ sign up.”

Nice. Here's my thoughts on the subject: Peace club kids, you guys are an inspiration. You're brave, noble, and obviously incredibly intelligent and mature for being able to resist the brainwashing efforts of your country's utterly detestable media-government establishment.

To the enemies of the peace club, you guys stink. I'm sure some of the swastikas and "white power" scrawlings were only intended in the lame, callous manner of teenage shock humour. (That's how we spell "humor" here in Canada!) In this context however, when your country has been raping and pillaging in Iraq for half a decade, when by some scientific estimates your country has presided over the deaths of over a million men, women and children, when countless other children your age and younger have lost their childhoods to the horrors of war, you're just not funny.

To the committed enemies of peace, you guys really stink. And you're stupid. Your president is a moron, a hypocrite, and a coward. Oh yeah, he's a thief and a dictator. He's the laughing-stock of the world, and that's saying a lot for a political system that's now regarded as a pathetic joke worldwide. I pray that when you graduate (probably by hiring people to do your assignments and write your exams) that you go to Iraq and suffer all the horrors of the war that you claim to love so much. But if the past is any indication, you won't go. Because like most bush-fetishist war-mongering scum, you leave the fighting and dying up to other people.

I can't really blame you guys for being such empty-headed idiots though. You weren't raised right is all. How could you have been, what with your closet-case fathers all off every night getting corn-holed at roadside gay orgies ("Jesus, I have failed you again!") and your mothers' minds destroyed by bulimia-induced malnutrition and their days spent swigging booze and bribing gardeners and other tradesmen to gang-bang them.

To the dipshit who wrote "I Love America, Because America Loves War," well now, you have to go to war now, don't you? Anyway, thanks for expressing the thoughts that have made the vast majority of humanity loathe you. Sure, you guys are still the most powerful country in the world, but another decade of your kind of government and you'll collapse into civil war and anarchy.

16 comments:

Abuabasabat said...

You really have an issue with anger, don't you? Ever consider seeking help? You should.

Seriously.

thwap said...

Sigh.

[sarcasm]Your words have cut me to the quick. Your devastating demolition of my writing has forced me to confront my life and all my opinions and re-evaluate everything. You are truly a formidable intellectual adversary.[/sarcasm]

This already past boring. Provide a substantive argument or you'll be deleted.

Abuabasabat said...

You're funny, if not predictable. You yourself provide no argument; only rage. Rage is not argument. It is irrational emoting.

Or didn't you know that?

Delete away, dope. If you don't, you leave yourself open to justified ridicule. God, you are so unaware of seeing yourself as others see you, Thwap.

Abuabasabat said...

"Unaware of" = unable to," ... you "empty-headed idiot," who wasn't "raised right," with "your closet-case father" "off every night getting corn-holed at roadside gay orgies," "and your mothers' minds destroyed by bulimia-induced malnutrition and their days spent swigging booze and bribing gardeners and other tradesmen to gang-bang them," you "dipshit."

But you can always dream that the US will fall to civil war and anarchy, can't you, Thwap?

What brilliant and well-reasoned debate you provide us idiots, thwap!

thwap said...

The swastikas, "white power" scrawlings, and the "I love America because America loves war" don't produce any feelings of revulsion with you?

The harrassment of fellow students for doing nothing but wearing shirts with peace symbols on them doesn't disturb you?

The documented fact, proven year after year, that the vast majority of these pro-war bush supporters don't put their own lives on the line for the supposed war of their generation, even though the US army is stretched to the breaking-point maintaining troop levels in Iraq, ... that doesn't put any of these war-loving students' behaviour into any sort of perspective for you?

How stupid are you? How dull and coarse are you?

I think that I get it though. I say nasty things about specific groups of people, therefore I'm no better than they are. Is that it?

I write cuss-words, therefore my arguments have no merit?

Is that the sort of thought-process behind your tiresome comments? Is that the extent of your entire critique?

If so, you're a dipshit.

Abuabasabat said...

Whatever, Thwap. The fact is, proven post after post, you do not argue or engage in rational debate. You spew invective. But you expect "substantive argument" in return.

And I find that pretty funny, Thwap. It's like a beggar yelling at you two inches from your face, calling you an evil capitalist pig, but all the while expecting you to cough up some loose change so he can buy a pint of Ripple and a pack of cigarettes.

Me? I'll just tell the lousy bum to take a bath, sober up, refill his prescription for his medication, and get a job.

But you, Thwap? Good luck at your attempt at building the next Belmont Club or Powerline. You'll need it.

Oh, and don't forget your prescription for Thorazine refilled.

Abuabasabat said...

"I write cuss-words, therefore my arguments have no merit?" -- Thwap

In general, that is true. See? You are making progress.

Abuabasabat said...

"If so, you're a dipshit." --Thwap

Whoops! Maybe not.

thwap said...

See here: http://thwapschoolyard.blogspot.com/2007/11/maintaining-decorum.html

Abuabasabat said...

Oh, brother are you clueless!

Do you really see yourself in the role of world-cop or some kind of superhero stud? Do you really think people ignore your pearls of wisdom because you call them names and use potty language?

You are further gone than I thought.

Really. take a good long look at yourself, stud, and get help. And quit blogging.

thwap said...

"Clueless."

And you were talking about "projection" earlier.

It is to laugh.

No, you stupid fuck. I don't imagine that I'm a "world-cop or some kind of superhero stud."

The analogy was meant to explicitly point out the sheer lunacy of dismissing someone just because they use a few cuss words.

I'm not surprised you have difficulty making these connections, given the sloppiness of your thinking generally.

I just noticed this gem in an earlier shithead comment of yours:

"It's like a beggar yelling at you two inches from your face, calling you an evil capitalist pig, but all the while expecting you to cough up some loose change so he can buy a pint of Ripple and a pack of cigarettes."

So, playing out your stupid analogy, where is it that you find me asking for any favours from the capitalists in my rants?

Where is it that I'm asking those war-monger asshole teenagers for something?

So, aside from the fact that you're a tiresome, pompous prude, what else do you have?

Ridiculous, inaccurate analogies, and repetitive attempts at humour at the expense of the mentally ill.

You claim that all I do is spew invective, that I don't provide an argument, and I think that I know what the problem is.

Being incapable of sustaining a coherent thought-process, you simply lose sight of what I'm saying, and can only remember that you're upset by my swearing.

Thanks for this display of your complete intellectual bankruptcy.

thwap said...

BTW: I've come up with an analogy that represents the idiocy of your whole shtick ...

See if you can follow this sport:

Somebody hits you in the face and you hit them back and I stand around saying that you're both unhinged, violent lunatics. Actually, I spend most of time making inane comments about your anger management problems.

You're confused. I'll spell it out for you: Some people behave like stupid assholes and I call them stupid assholes. You can only fixate on my insulting the stupid assholes, and imagine that there's some sort of equivalency there.

You're welcome.

Abuabasabat said...

"So, playing out your stupid analogy, where is it that you find me asking for any favours from the capitalists in my rants?" you asked.

Answer: “Provide a substantive argument or you'll be deleted,” you said above.

“You yourself provide no argument; only rage. Rage is not argument. It is irrational emoting,” I replied to this unintentional joke of yours. This is analogous to my saying to an aggressive beggar, "Get a job." You see? (Also, you should learn what an analogy is, Thwap. I think you don’t know.)

“You stupid fuck,” you respond.

Brilliant use of the Anglo-Saxon, Thwap. Really.

“So, playing out your stupid analogy, where is it that you find me asking for any favours from the capitalists in my rants?” you asked idiotically.

“Provide a substantive argument or you'll be deleted,” you said, as I have already pointed out. (You also love the word “stupid,” don’t you? How old are you?)

“Where is it that I'm asking those war-monger asshole teenagers for something?” you asked idiotically again.

You asked ME, you dimwit. What have these teenagers got to do with it, knucklehead?

“So, aside from the fact that you're a tiresome, pompous prude, what else do you have?” you asked, walking into it again.

You are projecting again. You are the pompous bore, Thwap: “How dull and coarse are you?” you asked way above, when it is you who is could only be accused being “coarse.” Besides, “dull and coarse”? Who uses that phraseology, Miss Goody Two-shoes? I also recommend you look up the word “prude” in the dictionary. I think you are looking for another word.

You end up with a killer: “Some people behave like stupid assholes and I call them stupid assholes. You can only fixate on my insulting the stupid assholes, and imagine that there's some sort of equivalency there.”

Yes you call everyone who doesn’t agree with you a ‘stupid asshole.” That’s fine … if you’re twelve and trying to impress the boys. But in ain’t argument. I don’t know why it is so difficult for you to comprehend that, but you clearly cannot. Just don’t expect to get a “substantive argument” out of anyone when your opening salvo is “you’re a stupid asshole, war-monger, bulimic, roadside gay fuck.” Consider this friendly advice, even if you don’t understand it. You’ll just have to commit it to memory, Thwap.

But, really, what on earth makes you think I think that “there's some sort of equivalency” between people you consider stupid assholes and you, Thwap? You are worse than those whom you consider “stupid assholes”; not only do I know that you are an idiot but I believe that you are mentally disturbed also. You have a real problem. You are one very, very angry man, and borderline incoherent.

thwap said...

Jesus Fucking Christ, are you ever stupid.

I'll try to communicate as plainly as I can, since you get confused so easily that you confuse yourself.

The chronology went like this:

1. I wrote a post on my blog.

2. You provided a witless critique.

3. I asked you repeatedly to substantiate your witless critique.

You have somehow likened this to a street lunatic approaching you, berating you, and then hitting you up for spare change.

You stupid fuck. If anyone's the street lunatic here it's you. You approached me.

To the extent of aquiring a blogger id to get around my banning of anonymous commentators.

Let me repeat myself, you moron, I've asked you to effectively demolish the content of my blog post.

You haven't been able to do that so far. For obvious reasons. You're not that bright.

I'll repeat for you again why I've chosen to play with you: I'm confident that if you ever emerge from your barricade of snide, you'll be exposed as intellectually naked. So far, I've been proven right in spades.

“Where is it that I'm asking those war-monger asshole teenagers for something?” you asked idiotically again.

You asked ME, you dimwit. What have these teenagers got to do with it, knucklehead?
"

Let me repeat AGAIN: (Jesus Christ, but the depths of your stupidity is breathtaking!) YOU showed up HERE at MY blog, claiming to find problems with my mental health based on something I wrote.

Are you still with me? Or am I going too fast for you? Is this too much all at once? If so, please re-read the above paragraph over and over until you have its meaning committed to heart.

Ready now?

Okay?

You're sure now? Because you really are a complete fucking moron.

Now then, here's the question: Explain - why - you - think - my - post, - wherein- I- said- nasty-things- about - people -who - abused - and- harassed - a - "peace club" - by - drawing - SWASTIKAS - "white power" - and PRO-WAR - statements - on - their - posters - and - by - calling - them - names - and - yelling - at - them - in - hallways - at - their - school, - was - a - BAD - POST.

Okay? Why did you think that I was wrong to insult those people?

Note (fuckface): Your comment - "Yes you call everyone who doesn’t agree with you a ‘stupid asshole.'" is entirely false.

I'm able to have polite, respectful disagreements with people. But idiots and morons, no, they get what they deserve.

Pig-fucking imbeciles such as yourself for instance.

Finally: You're right. I was wrong to call your incoherent stories "analogies." I was being charitable to you. I should have said attempted analogies.

"5. Logic. a form of reasoning in which one thing is inferred to be similar to another thing in a certain respect, on the basis of the known similarity between the things in other respects. "

My apologies for being charitable to you, dipshit.

While I'm doing the work of showing you how big a fucking moron you are:

"Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This
prude /prud/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[prood] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun a person who is excessively proper or modest in speech, conduct, dress, etc.

[Origin: 1695–1705; < F prude a prude (n.), prudish (adj.), short for prudefemme, OF prodefeme worthy or respectable woman. See proud, feme]
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Abuabasabat said...

The gist of your latest diatribe: “Explain - why - you - think - my - post, - wherein- I- said- nasty-things- about - people -who - abused - and- harassed - a - "peace club" - by - drawing - SWASTIKAS - "white power" - and PRO-WAR - statements - on - their - posters - and - by - calling - them - names - and - yelling - at - them - in - hallways - at - their - school, - was - a - BAD - POST.”

What you can’t seem to comprehend is that there is nothing in your original post to refute. It is simply invective. To ask for me to refute it is absurd … irrational. That you have increased your invective with each subsequent comment only confirms your irrationality. That you cannot see that what you do is irrational invective only confirms your mental instability. Go ahead: Read that last comment and tell me it is rational. Hell, read your original post again. Point out to me one piece of rational argument. One.

You fool, I’ve told you why your post was “a bad post” with every comment I’ve made here. You are so blinded by your crazed fury that you are unable to see it.

I think you may be insane.

And to the insane, perhaps I may be a “prude.” But discernment is not your strong suit, is it?

Seek help, Thwap. I think you are in trouble.

thwap said...

Well, I think I've let you embarrass yourself quite enough.

Yes. I insulted nazis, war-mongers, assholes, racists, and republicans.

You have a problem with this. I don't care.

Fuck off.

I know that you went to a lot of trouble to be able to communicate with me, but I'll be deleting all your stupid comments from here on in.