Saturday, November 3, 2007

How Are They Able To Tie Their Own Shoelaces?

Genuine curiosity here. These stupid right-wing fucks, ... how the hell can they be sentient human beings, possessed of an apparent ability to type, but they are so goddamned clueless and insane on matters of substance? What level of human cognitive ability are they at where they can produce such drivel as I've just seen recently?

In this post; "Suppressing Dissent" I link to the harassment of peace activists Ann Wright and others from CODEPINK as they try to enter Canada to discuss the implications of the authoritarian "Security and Prosperity Parntership" for the health of democratic dissent in North America.

Essentially, these fine US citizens have been arrested on bullshit grounds, ticketed, and now their foreign travel is being restricted under regulations that were meant to control dangerous criminals and terrorists, not people who protest illegal wars and mass slaughter.

"wayne" responds to this horrible and disturbing behaviour with the asinine comment: "Good. Condi for president," which got his ugly, pig-headed self banned for life from the schoolyard.

No-life loser "nonny" attempted to post something (in a frenzy of juvenille activity) and I deleted it so that it appears as if it never existed.

But "bert" is the guy who has me scratching my head. In his first post, the twit argues that this harassment of these citizens is no big deal. Then, when I comment that I'd like to see them suffer similar treatment under a left-wing government, he accuses me of fascist tendencies. Which he apparently finds alarming. When I tell him that he's just exposed himself as a complete hypocrite he lets loose with the following idiotic tantrum:

You've got a little on your chin, there, thwappy. Might wanna wipe that up before you go out in public. And try taking your meds, too, before the nice men with the net come by and fit you for one of those trendy jackets with the sleeves that tie in the back. Anti-hallucinatory drugs could surely cure you of your tendency to just make shit up and accuse the other guy of having said it.What a fucking moron you are.

But it is comical to watch you blather on, having a fucking conversation with yourself about points nobody actually made.

You should just disable comments completely because you are incapable of comprehending anything written to you. Your blog is a fucking waste of time. So, fuck you, arsewipe.


I mean, really, what did I miss? I've titled this entry "How are they able to tie their own shoelaces?" and I really do wonder how a person can genuinely miss the significance of their own fucking thoughts and words, and react in genuine outrage when the significance of their own words is presented to them.

"bert" is a prize example of the clueless incomprehension, hypocritical self-righteousness, inability to argue the simplest points, and, finally, inability to grasp the use and meaning of an argument ad hominem that so characterizes this frightfully stupid, and formerly influential political demographic.

Let's review the arrests of the CODEPINK activists:

Desiree Fairooz holding up her red paint stained hands to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and shouting “The blood of millions of Iraqis is on your hands!” As Capitol Hill police took he out of the hearing of the House of Representatives’ Committee on Foreign Affairs, Fairooz yelled over her shoulder “War criminal! Take her to the Hague!” Shortly thereafter two Codepinkers were arrested for just being in the room and brutally hauled out of the hearing by Capitol police. An hour later Medea and a male Codepinker were arrested for no reason. Four of the five had to stay overnight in the District of Columbia jail.

Now, it should be completely obvious that all of these arrests were completely bogus. The Ms. Fairooz could be argued to have been causing a disturbance, but her companions were arrested for simply sitting near her, or later, two were arrested simply for knowing her.

Let's repeat that for the braindead morons and/or disgusting fascist authoritarians like "wayne," "nonny," and "bert." They were arrested for nothing. Try to picture this guys: You're walking down the street. A friend of yours had been arrested the day before for shouting "Taliban lover!" at Jack Layton, and had been arrested and held overnight for this non-crime. And now, two police officers approach you as you're on the way to work, or home, or wherever it is, and they say that you're under arrest. Now they're handcuffing you and putting you in a squad car and taking you to jail.

Is this concrete enough of an example for you shitheads? Does this register as suppression of dissent yet in your pea-brains?

And what's more, when you try to travel to the United States, you find that you're on some watch-list for dangerous criminals and terrorists, and you're unable to visit relatives, seek employment, vacation, or network with other compatriots in your great war against "liberal appeasement stalinist gay-burqa loving beheading fetishist global warming fascism" or whatever the hell it is you numbskulls believe you're fighting against.

Of course, there are options to escape from these restrictions. Mountains of paperwork that nobody bothered to inform you about:

After nearly four hours of interrogation, I was told by the senior immigration officer that I was banned from Canada for one year for failure to provide appropriate documents that would overcome the exclusion order I had been given in early October because of conviction of misdemeanors (all payable by fines) in the United States. The officer said that to apply for a Temporary Resident Permit (TRP) for entry for a specific event on a specific date, I must provide to a Canadian Embassy or consulate the arresting officer’s report, court transcripts and court documents for each of the convictions and an official document describing the termination of sentences, a police certificate issued within the last three months by the FBI, police certificates from places I have lived in the past ten years (that includes Sierra Leone, Micronesia, Afghanistan and Mongolia), a letter acknowledging my convictions from three respected members of the community (the respected members that I will ask to write a letter all been convicted of similar “offenses”) and a completed 18 page “criminal rehabilitation” packet.


Additionally, besides obtaining theTemporary Resident Permit, since I was being banned for a year from Canada, I would have to obtain a “Canadian Government Minister’s consent.” The officer said that the TRP and the Minister’s consent normally took from 8-10 months to obtain. In the distant future, to be able to enter Canada without a TRP, I would have to have to be “criminally rehabilitated” and be free for five years of conviction of any offense, including for peaceful protest.

And in no way, shape, or form, can anything, any one of you did, be construed as making you security threats on par with dangerous criminals and terrorists, but there you have it.

Once again, ugly-minded, bone-stupid "wayne" thought this was a good way to treat dissenters. And sweet, sensitive "bert" says that everythings on the up-and-up and they can do the paper-work and provide advance notice of their travel plans, and then he makes a lame joke about lefties singing "Kumbiya."

But when I talk about a leftist government meting out the same treatment as these women suffered, when I said that I'd love to see people like "bert," "wayne," and all the other assorted assholes treated like Ms. Wright and friends were, "bert" starts to worry about my fascist tendencies. (I'll admit I also talked about media campaigns of denigration, and spying, which isn't mentioned by Ms. Wright, but unless you've been walking around with your head up your ass for the past five or so years, you'll understand that warrantless, widespread spying, and worse, are the modus operandi of our undemocratic neo-liberal authoritarians. If "bert" wants to argue that he has, in fact, been licking the insides of his colon for the past half-decade, let him do so. I'll give him a pass for his ignorance.)

So, it's pretty clear that "bert" was established as a fascist thug as well as a disgusting hypocrite, yet he's too stupid and self-righteous to notice. Is he a complete waste of time? Obviously. But how such a limited human can function in the world on other levels is still a matter of curiosity for me.

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

How persuasive you are. Have you ever stopped to consider that your anger has driven you quite insane?

thwap said...

"anonymous,"

No, actually, I haven't.

I take it you're being sarcastic about my persuasiveness.

Why don't you make the effort to explain clearly and succintly why it isn't completely hypocritical to dismiss the treatment of the CODEPINK activists, then go on to accuse me of fascist tendencies when I suggest that a leftist government treat rightist bushlovers the same way, and then respond with vituperative rage when I accuse you of inconsistency?

Why don't you make the assuredly tiny effort it would take to perform a comprehensive demolition of my argument?

You and I both know that it's because you can't. And however many snide and meaningless statements you drop here, it isn't going to change the fact that you're incapable of mounting a coherent debate.

It's beyond ridiculous with people like you. It's unfathomable, the depths of your stupidity and mental and moral blindnesss.

Anonymous said...

"No, actually, I haven't."

Yes, indeed. That is clear. So, I say again, in a slightly different (dare I say, more helpful?) way: Why don't you stop to consider that your anger has driven you quite insane?

thwap said...

Why don't you try to explain to me why you don't even bother to address my argument? (If it isn't simply because you're too stupid to be able to.)

If not that, then please, by all means, tell me specifically what it is about my post that makes you think that I'm unhinged.

As for all the rest of it, you do realize that you're nobody to me? You're "anonymous," [though I know that you hail from the Big Apple], and as such, I know nothing about you other than that you leave intelligence-free comments on my blog.

There is another possibility in your refusal to actually engage in a debate, besides your being incredibly stupid; you're too thick to mount a proper critique, but you're aware of this, and so you consciously resort to these meaningless insults in some sort of futile, roundabout attempt to discredit my position.

Either way, you're contemptible.

These are serious issues we're talking about here: terrorism, human rights, the rule of law. It's a shame that you're unable to genuinely examine them.

Anonymous said...

Why would I engage an insane man? I am neither insane myself nor a psychologist.

My purpose is not to refute your mad rants. My purpose is to suggest you seek professional help.

(By the way, it seems nearly 100% of your readers agree with me. Quite a following you have here, skippy.)

thwap said...

I debated whether or not to reply to that last comment.

Obviously, I've decided to.

I would ask you one last time to try to construct a coherent response to my post, to show me that your's is the better position on the subject.

Otherwise, it remains the case that you, and the other right-wingers who responded to that earlier entry are the hypocritical authoritarians.

And if you decide to reject my plea, and post another helpful suggestion about my getting professional help, then I'll resign myself to the fact that the anonymous stranger with its head up its ass says that I'm crazy, and get on with my life.

Meaning that once again, an example of the right-wing proves itself to be an enemy of human rights and incapable of justifying its nauseating political beliefs.

The choice is yours.

Anonymous said...

"A man who carries on a debate with himself, while simultaneously laboring under the belief that he is having a discussion with another is certifiably freakin' nuts and probably a danger to himself, others, and little kittens." -- Some guy.

Anonymous said...

"Why don't you try to explain to me why you don't even bother to address my argument? "

You're so fucking simple that you can't even see how fucking retarded that question is!

thwap said...

"kdosjfl" (or whatever the fuck you are)

Sigh. Where do you people come from? (It appears to be the bottom-twentieth of the intellect of the United States from the look of things.)

"Why don't you try to explain to me why you don't even bother to address my argument? "

You're so fucking simple that you can't even see how fucking retarded that question is!

That was a fair question, and you'll notice, it was one of several, including:

"Why don't you make the effort to explain clearly and succintly why it isn't completely hypocritical ...(etc.)"

"If not that, then please, by all means, tell me specifically what it is about my post that makes you think that I'm unhinged."

"try to construct a coherent response to my post, to show me that your's is the better position on the subject."

It's all a way of asking just what is it that is so ridiculous about my position? I also told the childish anonymous one that since my argument was so obviously flawed, it would only take a tiny effort to point out the glaring error that made it so.

Unfortunately, "anonymous" was really unable to address the issue at hand (or any other issue of consequence probably) and so persisted in lame attempts to bait me.

And now I find yet another subnormal intellect, some drooling george dubya bush lover, spewing yet another intelligence-free bit of garbage on my blog.

I believe you genuinely think you've discovered something, but like all the other anonymous right-wing shitheads who troll blogs like this, you've done nothing but reveal your own lamentable stupidity once again.

trog69 said...

Good morning, thwap.

There's no capitals in your screenname, so I like you already!

Wow! Yet still they provide no argument, save for "so's yer mama!"

I will suggest that you do yourself no favors by responses to these people; After the name-calling, they rest their case!

As to the topic, man, I'd never even heard of SPP before a couple months ago. Well done, MSM! Keepin' it in the Fambly, Huh?

Keep up the great work, thwap.

Anonymous said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
Anonymous said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
thwap said...

Trog69,

Thanks for the kind words. I thought I'd make this little interaction evidence of my attempt to honestly engage with the enemies of dissent, and I think they've been given quite enough chances to justify their extreme views.

Which is why I've deleted "anonymous"'s two last entries. More of the same useless garbage.

Anonymous said...

"[M]y attempt to honestly engage with the enemies of dissent."

Do you even hear yourself, nutso? You don't "honestly engage" people in debate by first calling them "enemies of dissent," "right wing fucks," or "no-life losers."

What a complete and total retard you are, pyscho. And you're obviously a liar too, nutjob. "Honestly engage" indeed. Idiot.

thwap said...

That's FUNNY anonymous!

I think it's funny because you've actually attempted to debate me on something, and instead you pissed all over yourself!!

You just condemned me for calling people names, all the while calling me "nutso," "nutjob," "psycho," and "a complete and total retard."

Hi-fucking-larious!! :)

I take it then that you're only trying to dis-honestly engage with me with that insanely angry tirade?

Or something?

I'm sure you'll think of something. (Similarly stupid.)

Anonymous said...

Thwap,

Your pathetic and dishonest attempt to appear calm and reasoned is completely and irrefutably belied by the majority of your posts, including all of the recent ones. I read them. Have you?

Anonymous said...

By the way, dim Dora, I wasn't attempting to "debate" you. I was ridiculing you. Even a five-year-old can tell the difference, but not you. I know why.

thwap said...

"Your pathetic and dishonest attempt to appear calm and reasoned is completely and irrefutably belied by the majority of your posts, including all of the recent ones. I read them. Have you?"

Whereas your transparent abandonment of the "nutso" and "retard" once your were called on them isn't pathetic and dishonest?

A break me fucking give.


"By the way, dim Dora, I wasn't attempting to "debate" you. I was ridiculing you. Even a five-year-old can tell the difference, but not you. I know why."

Golly-gee, really? I'm aware that you're trying to assert that my writings and their ideas are ridiculous, but so far you've failed to explain why. And as I've stated often enough for practically anyone of normal intelligence to get it; if my ideas are that obviously bad, it would only take you a second to show me the error of my ways.

But you haven't because you can't. Because you're not smart enough to do it, and all your ideas, values, principles are really stupid bullshit, and deep-down you're aware of this, but instead you lash out at others because you're enraged with your own incapacities.

You're not a thinker, you're a hack. And a piss-poor one at that.

Now, this has been fun and all, but my patience is exhausted. Either debate with my ideas or fuck-off. At the very least, you've told me that I need mental help, and I'm disregarding you, so your work is done in that regard.

Any further off-topic, asinine attacks from you are going to be deleted.

BTW: I'm not anti-American. You are. If you'd trouble yourself to look at the latest polls, Americans hate people like you, and what your ilk has done to their country. They're going to try to take it back. You'd best get out of the fucking way.

Moron.

Anonymous said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
thwap said...

Jesus Christ, but readers are going to find out that somebody is a little disturbed. And obsessed. And lonely.

You might want to work on that friendless existence you've got going.

Anonymous said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
Anonymous said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
Anonymous said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
Anonymous said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.